dsweddd2015-04-13 22:13
大家好.大家再见（我好像忘了什么--）
哦对了 话说大家把精华坑的差不多了，我只能解析即将出的武将了
（话说看这个武将强度我一直认为不会出→_→ until旧麻袋被边锋请回来，我觉得这个武将还是有可能会出的）
（由于帖子过长，如有不愿看完的友友们可以直接回帖跳转至楼下
顺便留下自己的花花，谢谢o(∩_∩)o）
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下面是该武将原画和技能
【昭烈】——摸牌阶段摸牌时，你可以少摸一张，指定你攻击范围内的一名角色亮出牌堆顶上3张牌，将其中的非基本牌和【桃】置于弃牌堆，该角色进行二选一：你对其造成x点伤害，然后他获得这些基本牌；或他依次弃置x张牌，然后你获得这些基本牌。（x为其中非基本牌的数量）
【誓仇】——主公技，限定技，回合开始时，你可指定一名蜀国角色并交给其两张牌。本盘游戏中，每当你受到伤害时，改为该角色替你受到等量的伤害，然后摸等量的牌，直至该角色第一次进入濒死状态。
（转自pcgames）
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看到这个武将我首先要吐槽的就是插画→_→
大叔你是在照镜子吗
然后是技能--
昭烈：展示牌数0-3不等
按照你们的收益论：
0牌：收益-1
1牌：反间/拆1摸1
2牌：2血送2牌/拆2摸2
3牌：回合制无属性大业炎+送3牌/大英魂+摸3张
→_→三国杀牌数：共计152张 其中基本牌杀43张，闪23张，桃13张，酒5张
然而桃还不计算在内
亮出牌数=71 其中酒还很坑爹地能加血--
发动效率不到一半--
（但是亮点在于 可以亮3张 事实上有1.多的几率可以成功）而且代价只是少摸一张牌
你让标许褚情何以堪？
昭烈最大的缺点就是缺距离 ，有时候一张拆就可以废掉你一个回合
有人说 ，打不到反可以辅助忠 ，那么如果你rp差，亮出三张基本牌，你的忠臣会损失三张牌，而你会有手牌溢出（坑爹的是，你的手里全是杀闪，打不到反，这回合还是废了，而且还坑了忠臣。ps:卖血流做忠臣有奇效。）
如果去除那个坑爹的距离限制，乐进也只能望而兴叹→_→
然而：此技能有一定情况甚至不如反间（反间bug就不怪我咯）
因为对面可以选择弃牌，所以未必能给对面致命一击。
如果你的对手是星sp刘备的话，尽量给他牌吧（表面上看对面收益很大 其实只不过是明牌 而且是杀闪一类的，而你的血线低了 你就留不住牌 再来一轮大昭烈，我就只能和你say bye bye了→_→）
另外一个亮点：依次弃置x张牌
可以很好地辅助邓艾 星彩一类武将
负面效果：对面是凌统一类的话，你就只能这样了→_→
接下来吐槽一下他的主公技→_→
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誓仇：主公技，限定技
唯一的主动主公技
而且很好地保证了蜀国武将的忠心程度→_→反贼选蜀是nc（神cc除外）
刘备回合外没有防御技 嘲讽高所以加了一个替死技能
@神关羽
谁来与我同去？！
然而.袁术已超神：袁术又获得一个限定技→_→
只见袁术反交给刘备主2牌
然后刘备昭烈翻出3张非桃基本牌，然后→_→刘备掉了三血 袁术获得这些牌
好吧 以上只是个人吐槽
下面正式浅解--
☆sp刘备和一些恢复能力或防御能力超强的角色如孟获、界赵云、界飞哥等角色能起到配合，和一些不怕死的武将如庞统、廖化也能配合。然而开局无脑誓仇蜀将要不得。正确的方法：三血左右，发动誓仇。（你自己没有血线留不住牌的话，忠臣也会死很快。试想一下，蜀国武将几乎无卖血，无回复，怎能扛得住呢？当然，要是真有nc反选择蜀将，你就可以无脑誓仇了→_→）
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下面是faq：
[q]“昭烈”造成的伤害，是依次结算还是一次性伤害?
[a]是一次性造成的伤害，例如夏侯惇的“刚烈”只能判定一次。
[q]“昭烈”亮出的牌是判定牌么?
[a]不是。
[q]发动“昭烈”时，若目标角色选择随伤害导致死亡，“昭烈”判定剩余的基本牌如何处理?
[a]直接置于弃牌堆。
[q]当曹植在场上时，“昭烈”展示出的基本片中若有梅花花色，能否发动“落英”获得之?
[a]不可获得，“昭烈”亮出的牌不属于任何角色，曹植只能获得属于其他角色的，因弃牌或判定进入弃牌堆的牌。
[q]当“昭烈”以邓艾为目标时，邓艾选择弃牌，“屯田”如何结算?
[a]当邓艾选择弃牌时，由于是依次弃掉x张牌，其每弃掉一张牌则进行一次“屯田”技能判定。
[q]当“昭烈”进行结算时，若目标角色选择弃牌，但是不足判定数量怎么办?
[a]若目标角色弃牌数不能达到规定数量，则必须选择受到伤害而不能选择弃牌。
[q]若对陆逊使用“昭烈”，陆逊选择弃牌，此时能否发动“连营”?
[a]可以。且若选择“依次弃置x张牌”，在满足弃牌数量之前，“连营”必须强制发动，张春华的“伤逝”也如此处理。
例如：1手牌1装备的陆逊被“昭烈”指定为目标，亮出3张锦囊，x=3，陆逊选择“依次弃置3张牌”，则如果第一张弃置手牌，则必须发动“连营”摸取一张牌，之后若第二张弃置手牌，则可以选择是否发动“连营”，若否，则执行第三张弃牌时必须弃置装备。
[q]昭烈”是否可以对自己使用?
[a]不可以，只能对攻击范围内的其他角色使用。
[q]若“昭烈”亮出3张【桃】以外的基本牌，如何结算?
[a]此时x=0，该角色可以选择你对其造成0点伤害，然后他获得这些基本牌，或他依次弃置0张牌，然后你获得这些基本牌。
[q]若刘备与庞统“誓仇”，庞统发动“涅盘”，“誓仇”是否解除?
[a]解除是的，庞统“涅盘”前已处于濒死状态，“誓仇”立即解除。
[q]当“誓仇”目标第一次进入濒死状态，被救回，是否还要摸取这次伤害的等量的牌?
[a]不摸取，该角色进入濒死状态时，“誓仇”技能效果立即消失，因此不再摸取与伤害等量的牌。
[q]对本盘游戏中已经进入过濒死状态的蜀势力角色发动“誓仇”，如何解除?
[a]“誓仇”仅会检定技能生效后的第一次濒死状态，之前的濒死效应，因没有技能效果的存在，所以并不会被回忆到。“誓仇”依然在发动后，该蜀势力角色第一次进入濒死时被解除。
[q]小乔对已经与蜀势力角色“誓仇”的sp刘备发动“天香”造成伤害，如何结算?
[a]首先明确“誓仇”与“天香”都是在角色受到伤害时发动获取牌的时机则都是在角色受到伤害后的后续事件中进行。“誓仇”角色替刘备承受“天香”伤害，“天香”获取造贱已损失体力的值的牌的效果只对受到伤害的该蜀势力角色有效，之后由于“誓仇”的效果再获取与该次伤害等量的牌。徐盛“破军”以及蔡文姬“悲歌”亦如此，具体可参看桌游志14-16期“龙脉/龙鳞·新标杀流程详解/标准用语”。
[q]当一名角色装备【寒冰剑】对已经发动“誓仇”的刘备出【杀】造成伤害时，该角色发动【寒冰剑】技能效果，如何结算?
[a]【杀】的目标依旧是刘备，因此将弃掉齐备的两张牌防止伤害。“誓仇”的对象只在刘备受到伤害时替代其随等量伤害，而并非替代其成为新的目标。包括【雌雄双股剑】、【麒麟弓】、【古锭刀】等武器效果，以及个别在“造成伤害时”或“指定【杀】的目标后”对角色产生特别效果的开奖，如：sp赵云等，都是以刘备为目标进行的，只对目标刘备产生技能效果。
[q]若“化身”为蜀势力角色的左慈被指定为“誓仇”的对象，当其“化身”为其他势力角色时，“誓仇”效果是否有效?
[a]有效，“誓仇”鉴定的是指定时是否剑法，在之后的效果结算中，即使左慈“化身”为非蜀势力角色时，“誓仇”依然照常结算。
[q]当魏延对距离1以内的刘备造成伤害，“誓仇”转移伤害给另一名与魏延距离1以上的蜀势力角色时，是否触发“狂骨”?
[a]不发动。反之，若齐备与魏延距离1以上，而“誓仇”的目标角色与魏延距离为1以内，魏延对刘备造成伤害，则触发“狂骨”
[q]当法正被“昭烈”指定，选择受伤并获得基本牌时，“恩怨”是否可以令刘备摸牌?若法正被“誓仇”指定，受到伤害摸牌时，“恩怨”是否会令刘备失去体力或交给你手牌?
[a]均不会。“昭烈”展示的牌不属于齐备，所以法正并非是获得了“其他角色”(刘备)2张或更多的牌，反而“恩怨”由于对你造成伤害的是刘备，会令其选择失去体力或交给你手牌。而“誓仇”的伤害来源仍为“对刘备造成伤害的角色”，法正被“誓仇”时，“恩怨”影响的是对刘备造成伤害的角色，而非刘备本人。
[q]当刘备发动“誓仇”指定蜀势力角色a之后杀死蔡文姬被“断肠”，“誓仇”疚是否中止?
[a]不中止。“誓仇”的持续效应不因失去技能而结束解除时间点仅为a第一次进入濒死状态。
[q]当声上存在袁术时，“伪帝”与“誓仇”如何处理?
[a]“伪帝”视同于另一个限定技“誓仇”，在不同发动顺序及目标的情况下，视以下情况处理：
例1：刘备对蜀势力角色a发动“誓仇”，袁术亦对a发动“誓仇”，之后在本盘游戏机中，每天当刘备、袁术受到伤害时，均改为a受到等量的伤害，然后摸与该伤害选题的牌。直至a第一次进入濒死时，两个“誓仇”效应同时解除。
例2：刘备对蜀势力角色a发动“誓仇”，之后a第一次濒死时“誓仇”效应解除，袁术在其后亦对a发动“誓仇”，该效应依然有效，直至a再次濒死时，袁术的“誓仇”疚解除。顺序反之亦然。
例3：刘备对蜀势力角色a发动“誓仇”，袁术在其后对刘备发动“誓仇”，之后在本盘游戏中，每当刘备受到伤害时，改为a受到选题的伤害，然后摸与该伤害等量的牌;每当袁术受到伤害时，首先改为刘备受到选题的伤害，而刘备受到伤害时，仍然改为a受到等量的伤害，然后摸与该伤害选题的牌。直到a第一次濒死时，刘备的“誓仇”效应解除。之后每当袁术受到伤害时，改为刘备受到等量的伤害，然后摸与该伤害等量的牌，直到刘备第一次濒死时，袁术的“誓仇”效应解除。发动顺序反之替换对应名称即可。
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英文版
hello, everyone. goodbye everyone (i seem to forget what --
oh the essence of pit is almost all of the words, i can only the parsing is the military commanders
(see this warrior intensity i always thought that will not be winger out - _ - until the sacks, please come back, i think this warrior or is likely to be out)
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the following is the warrior concept and skills
fierce 】 【 zhao - phase to the touch touch the card, you can touch a less, you attack within the scope of a specified character with 3 cards, card on the top of the pile will be one of the basic card and the "peach" discard pile, the role of a choice: you deals x damage to its, and then he obtained the basic card; or he, in turn, discard x cards, then you get these basic card. the number of (x is the basic card)
- master the skill, vows revenge 】 【 limited, at the start of the round, you can specify a shu character and to the two cards. in this game, when you get hurt, instead of the role for you by the same amount of damage, then touched the same amount of brand, until the role for the first time into a dying state.
(from pcgames)
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the first thing i saw the military commanders to vomit slot is illustration - _ -
uncle are you look in the mirror? 
and then the skills --
zhao: display card number range 0 to 3
according to the theory of your income:
zero: returns 1
1: solution / 1 touch 1
2:2 blood to send card/split 2 touch 2
3: no attribute of turn-based inflammation + send 3 cards/big heroes 3 + touch
- _ - three kingdoms card number: a total of 152 copies the basic card kill 43, flash 23 zhang, peach 13 cards, wine is five
but peach is not counted
flash card number = 71 the wine is very pit dad can also add blood --
a efficiency less than half --
(but the window is bright 3 copies in fact have more than 1. are the chances of success) and the cost is less touch a card
you let the xu chu what about me?
zhao has the biggest drawback is the lack of distance, sometimes a tear can nullify your a leg
, some say, can not hit the auxiliary, so if your rp is poor, reveals his three basic, your loyal minister lose three cards, and you will have a hand overflow (pit dad, your hands are all kill flash, can't reverse, this round or waste, but also pit the loyal minister. ps: sell blood do loyal open.)
if remove the hole distance limit, music into it > _ > can only hope
however: this ability has certain cases even than solution (solution bug don't blame me!)
because the opposite can choose to discard, so may not give the opposite a fatal blow.
if your opponent is star sp liu bei, try to give him a card (great gains across the su***ce simply ming brand and kill flash sort of, and your blood line low you do not leave another round of daisho, you and i can only say bye bye - _ -)
another bright spot: discard x cards in turn
is a good way to assist wargo star type of warrior
negative effects: opposite the ling unified class, you can only come from - _ -
next to vomit slot his master skills - _ -
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vows revenge: master the skill, limited skills
only take the initiative to master the skill
and to ensure the well shu military commanders' loyalty degree - _ - the thief choose shu is nc except god (cc)
liu2 bei4 round outside, no defense mocking high so added a skills for death
@ god guan yu
who will go with me? !
however, yuan has super god: yuan again for a qualified technical - _ -
in the yuan to liu beizhu 2 cards
and then liu beizhao fierce turn out 3 zhang feitao basic card, and then lost the three blood - _ - liu bei yuan to get these cards
okay, this is just a personal vomit slot
the following formal shallow solution --
nurture sp liu bei and the role of some strong restore ability or defense ability, such as meng huo, bounded zhaoyun, flying elder brother with other roles can play, and some such as pang tong, gideon daredevil military commanders also can cooperate. however, no brain vows revenge shu will not start. right way: three blood around the oath. (do not leave if you have no blood line loyal minister will die soon. just imagine, shu blow almost no blood, no response, how can prop up? of course, if really have nc choose shu will, you can without oath revenge - _ -)
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the following is the faq:
[q] "fierce" zhao, is, in turn, settlement or one-time hurt?
[a] is a one-off damage, such as's "character" can only determine a.
[q] "fierce" zhao reveals his cards is determined?
[a] not.
[q] a "fierce" zhao, if target role selection with the damage cause of death, "fierce" zhao for determining remaining basic card how to deal with?
[a] directly placed in the discard pile.
[q] when's on the court, "zhao fierce" display if there is the plum blossom in the picture of the basic design and color, can launch a "tree lost its" get?
[a] unavailable, "zhao fierce" flash card does not belong to any role, only get a belongs to other's role, because of the discard or determine brand into the discard pile.
[q] when targeted wargo "fierce" zhao, choose discard wargo, "wasteland" how to settle accounts?
[a] when wargo choose to discard, because it is, in turn, discard x cards, its each discard a card for a "wasteland" skills.
[q] when settlement "fierce" zhao, if target choose discard, but insufficient to determine the number?
[a] if target role discard number number cannot reach regulation, you must choose to hurt and cannot choose to discard.
[q] if use "fierce" based on tracing the cause, tracing the cause choose to discard, at this time whether to launch "wheaten cake joins camp"?
[a]. and if choose, in turn, discard x cards, and discard the number before "wheaten cake joins camp" mandatory, revels "regret" is also so.
for example: 1 hand equipment tracing the cause was "fierce" zhao designated as the goal, to highlight three kits, x = 3, tracing the cause choice ", in turn, discard three cards ", if the first one left hand, you must start "wheaten cake joins camp" touch a card, if after a second left hand, you can choose whether to launch "wheaten cake joins camp", if not, is performing a third discard must be discarded equipment.
[q] zhao fierce "whether can for your own use?
[a] can't, can only be used to attack other roles within the scope.
[q] if "fierce" zhao reveals his three "peach" outside of the basic, how to settle accounts?
[a] at x = 0, this role can choose you 0 damage to its, and then he obtained the basic card, or he, in turn, discard 0 card, then you get these basic card.
[q] if liu bei and pang tong "vows revenge", pang tong "nirvana", "sworn enemy" lift?
[a] to remove yes, pang tong "nirvana" is in a dying condition, before "sworn enemy" lifted immediately.
[q] when "vows revenge" target for the first time into the near-death state, rescued, whether also touch get them the damage of the same amount of cards?
[a] don't touch, that role into the near-death state, "sworn enemy" effect immediately disappear, so no touch and damage the same amount of cards.
[q] this game has entered shu force role is in critical condition in a "revenge", how to remove?
[a] "sworn enemy" will only effective verification skills after near-death state for the first time, before dying effect, because of the existence of no effect, so it will not be recalled. "vows revenge" is after the launch, the shu force role into the dying for the first time was lifted.
[q] joe already with shu in the sp of character "shi" vendetta "against liu bei to launch" day "/damage, how to settle accounts?
[a] clear first "sworn enemy" and "/day" is in the role of hurt when the timing of the launch access card are in the role of hurt after subsequent events. "sworn enemy" role for liu bei damage taken "/day", "/day" to get built base has lost the effect of the physical strength the value of the card only to be hurt of the shu force role effectively, and due to the effect of the "shi" vendetta "against then get hurt the same amount of cards with the times. xu sheng "break the army" and cai wenji "elegy" is also so, specific can see board games volunteers 14-16 period "/dragon vein/scales, new kill process steps/standard language".
[q] when a role and equipment for ice sword 】 【 has launched a "vows revenge," liu bei "kill" damage, this role launched ice sword 】 【 effect, how to settle accounts?
[a] the goal of "kill" is liu bei, so will discard all ready two cards to prevent damage. "shi" vendetta "against object only when liu bei hurt replace it with the amount of damage, not replace it a new goal. including, male and female twin sword 】 【 【 kirin bow 】, such as the ancient ingot knife 】 【 weapons effect, and the individual in "harm" or "assigned" kill "target" after the role of special effects, such as: sp zhaoyun, etc., are based on liu bei as the goal, only have effect on target liu bei.
[q] if the role of "avatar" shu forces left keats was designated as "sworn enemy" of object, when the "avatar" for the other forces role, "sworn enemy" effect is effective?
[a], "sworn enemy" appraisal is to specify whether jianfa, in effect after the settlement, even left kindness "avatar" is a shu force character, and "sworn enemy" as usual.
[q] of distance is less than 1 when wei liu bei, "sworn enemy" transfer damage to another and more than 1 shu wei distance influence role, whether to trigger the "bone"?
[a] don't start. on the other hand, if all ready and wei distance more than 1, and "shi" vendetta "against target character and wei within a distance of 1, cause harm to liu bei wei, trigger the" bone"
[q] when the method is named by "fierce" zhao, select the injured and access to basic card, can make liu2 bei4 touch card "grudge"? if the method is named by "sworn enemy", hurt to touch a card, "the grudge" will make liu2 bei4 losing strength or to your hand?
[a] are not. "fierce" zhao display card does not belong to complete, so the method is not is the "other" (liu) two or more cards, instead of "grudge" due to hurt you is liu bei, will lose physical or make its choice to your hand. and "sworn enemy" source of damage is still the "role" harm the liu bei, law is being "sworn enemy", "the grudge" effect is the role of harm the liu bei, rather than liu bei himself.
[q] when liu bei to launch "shi" vendetta "against specified shu force role a kill cai wenji was" heartbroken ", "shi" vendetta "against suspension effect?
[a] don't stop. "vows revenge," continued effect is not due to lose their skills over lifting point is only a first into a dying state.
[q] sound exist yuan shushi, "emperor" and "shi" vendetta "against how to deal with?
[a] "the puppet emperor" as in another qualified skill "vows revenge", in different order and target case, processing according to the following situation:
example 1: liu bei of shu force role a launch "sworn enemy", yuan also launched a "sworn enemy", after the game in this set, a day when liu bei, yuan is hurt, a the same amount of damage to all, and then touch with that hurt topic card. until a into the dying for the first time, two "vows revenge" effect at the same time.
example 2: liu bei of shu force role a launch "sworn enemy", the first time after a near-death "sworn enemy" effect, yuan after also launched a "sworn enemy", the effect is still effective, until a dying again, yuan's "sworn enemy" effect. order and vice versa.
example 3: liu bei of shu force role a launch "sworn enemy", yuan after launch "sworn enemy" of liu bei, after in this game, when liu bei is hurt, instead of a selected topic of damage, then touch with the damage amount; when yuan is hurt, first of all to liu bei from being hurt by the selected topic, and liu bei, still to a the same amount of damage, and then touch with that hurt topic card. until a dying for the first time, liu bei's "vows revenge" effect. every time after yuan, the same amount of damage to liu bei, then touched the same amount of cards with the damage, dying for the first time, until liu bei yuan "vows revenge" effect. launch order instead to replace the corresponding name.
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